I cant quite figure out the difference between the 1970 dodge challenger R/T and the 1970 doge challenger T/A
but 1 more question. is the 1969 ford mustang mach 1 428 cobra jet ram air or the boss 420 better then each dodge challenger?
and what about the 1972 dodge charger
Answer by dodge man
on the challenger the t/a was usually the 340 six pack cars,and the r/t could be anything from a hemi up to a 440 six pack car,i owned a hemi car and also a 440 car,in answer to your question on the ford ,i have seen a few of those back when they was new beat a few hemi challengers,we use to drag race every saturday night at one certain spot ,and there was cars that would come all over including kentucky to drag race with us,in 1973 i beat a 71 challenger with a 68 barracuda,and the cuda was only a 340 car,the challenger a t/a car 340 six pack,i wouldn’t say the ford was better though,a lot of it was in the driving,good luck
Answer by homeyboater
bodies the same. The t/a had a six pack and different internals inside the motor. block was different as it had thicker cylinder walls.different heads valve train etc. Had side exit exhaust , sway bars front and back and std. front disc brakes. It was built so dodge could compete in trans am series racing. The standard RT was available with 340 to hemi….automatic or 4speed. hardtop or convertible. every option in between even a shaker hood. The 69 mach was available with351,390 428 and 429. The nascar 429 is a rare pony. all were great cars. 72 charger is a heavy coke bottle.toad motors made no power due to govt.restrictions
Answer by dakota97slowpar
Here is one from mopar archives. The Dodge Challenger T/A was a factory equipped Trans American race car package. Originally they came with a 340 six pack, 4 speed rock crusher manual and heavy duty front and rear brakes.(4 piston discs up front) and heavy duty sway bars front and rear and a lowered front valance. the original track cars came from the factory acid dipped to remove 800 lbs of metal from the body’s, aluminum hoods and fenders and no passenger or rear seats, as well as replacement lexan windows. No A/C, no power steering or power brakes, and ralleye style rims witch were acid dipped to save weight. and a reinforced front to rear link to help keep the car on the track. (tube Chassis were not permitted). the rolling weigt of a factory set up T/A was regulation 2400# with a full tank of Gas and driver. Now the R/T was reserved for the 426 Hemi, Magnum 383, and 440 Super Commando, and the 413 Max Wedge. of those only the 426 Hemi and413 Max Wedge were available for race setup similar to the factory T/A and roll cages were made for the driver to spec with chome moly tubing back then. The race set up Hemi came with a Shaker Hood, while the 413 Max Wedge came with the dual snorkel similar to the ‘cuda 340 hood. Only 440 six packs and 413 dual 4 bbl were given that hood. and no the 1969 Mach one was not better than the 340 six pack, because the additional weight of the CJ motor meant sacrificing Handeling and Braking witch was critical in Trans Am style racing Sure the CJ would pass you in a striaght but then you wold nail him in a corner or chicane where handeling was a premium. by the way, both of those cars had trouble the Judge and Goat show. and I am not a huge GM fan, but I will give credit where it is due. Bye the way, the 429 Police Interceptor I ran in a fast LTD Wagon gave enough mopars and bowties fits, it ran a high 12′s . But did not hold a candle my 9.55 @ 170+ Challenger, she pulled 3 foot wheelies
In 1982, the California Highway Patrol asked the Ford Motor Company to produce a capable and lightweight police car due to the bulkiness of current police cars like the Ford Fairmont and LTD/Crown Victoria and the problems incurred with Chevrolet Camaros with their camshafts and engine problems at pursuit speeds. Taking the Fox 5.0 Mustangs in production at the time, Ford produced the Ford Mustang SSP (originally labeled Severe Service Package, renamed in 1983 to Special Service Package) and modified them to suit the needs of the police and law enforcement departments.
Nearly 15,000 of these special units were made from 1982 until their discontinuation in 1993 to over 60 law enforcement organizations and government agencies. Their roles ranged from general patrol to pursuit units, with some used in special duties like drug interdiction to academy training units. Several units were specially tasked to help land the Lockheed U2 Spyplane.
The Mustang SSP was essentially a more rugged version of the 5.0 Mustang, with added features not available to the general public. Available options included:
Engine, 5.0 L HO V8 with Sequential Multi-Port Injection
Forged pistons, roller cam (Hypereutectic pistons 1993)
Engine oil cooler
Aircraft-type silicone radiator hoses and clamps
5-speed manual or 4-speed AOD transmission
Auto transmission fluid cooler
Brakes, power disc front/drum rear with rotor shields
Stainless steel factory headers
Dual exhaust system w/stainless tips
Fuel tank capacity 15.4 U.S. gallons (58 L)
Heavy duty stabilizer bars, front and rear
Full instrumentation with in-dash tachometer
130 and 135 amp internally and externally regulated heavy duty alternators
2 Piece VASCAR speedometer cable
Certified calibrated speedometer 0-140 mph(1982-early 1989) and 0-160 mph (late 1989-1993)
Non-operational courtesy lights (safety feature)
Relocated rear deck release
Single key locking doors/trunk
Reinforced floor pans
Full size spare tire
15″ X 7″ cast aluminum wheels
Depending on which agency bought them, extras like rollcages (installed by Oregon State Police) and power windows (requested by New York State Police) made each SSP unique to their respective departments. The original configuration of the civilian Mustang with its small rear seat and manual transmission were generally considered ill-suited for a law-enforcement vehicle. Many SSPs had automatic transmissions, to free an officers hand from using the manual transmission stick so that they could use the hand for other duties, such as speaking on a radio.
All of the 15,000 Mustang SSP’s were of the coupe or “notchback” style cars.
Some of the known users of the Mustang SSP include:
United States Government
Drug Enforcement Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Immigration and Naturalization Service
United States Air Force – Used as a chase car for the U2 Spy Plane.
United States Border Patrol – Drug interdiction; resides at USBP Museum in Texas.
United States Customs Service
US Fish and Wildlife Service
Alabama State Troopers
Arizona Department of Public Safety
California Highway Patrol – Initial Purchaser of the Mustang SSP
Colorado State Patrol
Connecticut State Police
Delaware State Police
Florida Highway Patrol – Second biggest user of the Mustang SSP.
Georgia State Patrol
Idaho State Police
Indiana State Police
Kansas State Police
Kentucky State Police
Louisiana State Police
Massachusetts State Police
Michigan State Police
Minnesota State Patrol
Mississippi Highway Patrol
Missouri Highway Patrol
Nebraska State Patrol
Nevada Highway Patrol
New Mexico State Police
North Carolina Highway Patrol
Oklahoma Highway Patrol
Oregon State Police
Pennsylvania State Police
Rhode Island State Police
South Carolina Highway Patrol
Tennessee Highway Patrol
Texas Department of Public Safety – Third biggest user of the Mustang SSP
Utah Highway Patrol
Washington State Patrol
Wisconsin State Patrol
Wyoming Highway Patrol
Arlington, TX Police Department
Atlanta, GA Police Department
Clearwater, FL Police Department
Fort Worth, TX Police Department
Jonesboro, AR Police Department
New York City Police Department – Highway Patrol Branch
Pensacola, FL Police Department
San Francisco Police Department
[Winter Park FL Police Department]
Beverly Hills, Ca Police Department
Portland Police Bureau, OR
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Many of the Mustang SSPs have been retired from service, with a few examples still on the rosters of police departments as display or DARE cars. A few law enforcement agencies still keep them on active duty. Most examples have found their way into either racing or restoration.
With its stiffened frame and beefed up suspension, many Mustang SSPs were modified for use in Drag Racing. The plentiful aftermarket of parts for the 5.0 Engine made the SSP platform a desirable frame to work on, but with the dwindling supply and rising prices of genuine Mustang SSPs, these factors have limited racers from converting SSPs for racing purposes.
Restoring Mustang SSPs have become a growing hobby as of late, with car clubs and websites devoted to the restoration of the law enforcement workhorse. Most enthusiasts strive for accuracy in their models, with many scouring for OEM parts, including police radios, shotgun holders, lights, sirens, and other related equipment. However, the hobby is limited, as many states have regulations on private citizens owning cars that could be mistaken for real cop cars. Some get around the regulations by using magnetic decals and removable lights.
Out of the initial batch of 400 units for the CHP, five were of the “hatchback” variety. These were produced under a Fleet DSO and retained for use and evaluation by the CHP. They are not Special Service Mustangs. One exists in private hands.
Several Mustang SSPs were heavily modified and used as training units at CHP’s EVOC facility.
USAF U2 chase car
Due to problems with landing the Lockheed U-2, a system was implemented where a second pilot would chase the U-2 (termed “mobile”) and help guide the aircraft down to earth. The USAF usually utilized a performance car for this task.
In 1986, the USAF was looking for a replacement for the Chevrolet El Camino as a chase car for the U-2. Beale Air Force Base asked the local California Highway Patrol to provide a Mustang SSP for testing. The test proved the Mustang SSP superior to the El Camino and the USAF ordered 20 for work with the spyplanes.
Their career lasted until the late 1990s, when they were replaced by “Special Service” B4C Chevrolet Camaros.
One of three examples from RAF Alconbury is preserved: 1988 Mustang SSP 88B 9971 “Mobile 1″, serving with the 17th Reconnaissance Wing and the 95th Reconnaissance Squadron until its disposal in 1999. It is currently in the hands of a private collector in the United States after being ferried from its last operation in Italy to England.
Noted Mustang tuner Saleen contributed to the history of the Mustang SSP. The Oregon State Police had ordered 34 coupes in 1988, but cancelled the order at the last minute. The dealership that ordered the coupes, Damerow Ford, scrambled to find a way to get rid of the order, and Saleen took custody of 13 of the cars. Saleen returned the cars, and also added vehicle ID, rear spoiler, ground effects and interior upgrades. The dealer then resold them.
While not considered a true SSP, Saleen modified another 5.0, a 1989 5.0 LX Hatchback, this time for the Seal Beach, California Police Department. Designated as an S442 model, this model served Seal Beach until its retirement in the late 1990s.
Police vehicles in the United States
^ 1982 California Highway Patrol SSP Mustang (The First SSP Mustang)
^ a b SSP Mustang FAQ Page
^ Mustang Monthly “Highly Pursued” text and photos by Donald Farr, May 2006 pg 88-90
^ 1992 CHP Mustang EVOC vehicle
^ sspmustang.org State/Municipal/Federal SSP Mustangs gallery; 2 EVOC cars (92 on left/89 right) at the CHP academy; note hubcaps removed for safety
^ Modified Mustangs “They Come, They Go!: First in Harms Way” sidebar Story by Don Roy Photos by James Pickett, January 2007 pg 117
^ A look at USAF ‘Spy Plane Chasers’
^ Mustang Forty Years, by Randy Leffingwell, ISBN 0-7603-1597-3
Book and Magazine references
Mustang Forty Years, by Randy Leffingwell, ISBN 0-7603-1597-3
Mustang Monthly “For Special Service” by Miles Cook, November 2004 (PDF copy of article here)
Mustang Monthly “Highly Pursued” text and photos by Donald Farr, May 2006 pg 88-90
Modified Mustangs “They Come, They Go!: First in Harms Way” sidebar Story by Don Roy Photos by James Pickett, January 2007 pg 117
Special Service Mustangs
Mustang Special Service Registry
SSP Mustang Page
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